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I really wish 'science' taught in schools actually taught science, not just remembering facts, because it is very useful. Sure, situations arise in which you cannot apply the Method, but for the most part it is, when followed, an excellent way of removing your bias. For a good overview of the Method, visit: http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu/ph...AppendixE.html Edit: Hmm, that page seems to overlook peer-review (There isn't such a thing a single scientist. You need at least two people to count as a scientist) as part of the Method. Tsk. Last edited by armourking : 29th October 2003 at 16:32. |
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29th October 2003, 16:46 | #122 |
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Well there's certainly no evolution in these threads. They always end up the fucking same way! Everyone goes to great lengths proving lightspeed / pk wrong, then when they ask lightspeed / pk questions, they completely ignore them, making the person who asked them completely frustrated.
Why don't you just all rip your hair out now and save yourself the waste of time that these religion / evolution threads always become. Last edited by herp : 29th October 2003 at 16:47. |
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Oh please, now you're going to say i posted it purely to cause people to argue and rark up!
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31st October 2003, 00:23 | #125 |
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Why is there something instead of nothing?
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Lightspeed: Yeah man. Last edited by AycorzFewdz : 31st October 2003 at 01:02. |
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31st October 2003, 01:27 | #128 |
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could anything have happened any other way that it has?
the universe is just a big domino set which was set off at the big bang and the laws of physics determine how it goes, how it has gone, and how it will keep going in that case, is there free will? and do we really control our own lives if we're just controlled by the laws of physics... |
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Um, I'd say that there are many compeling argument for both sides. The one that got me was: "Would these laws allow ourselves to believe in free will in the first place?"
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31st October 2003, 01:39 | #130 | |
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similar argument about god... doubt...faith...temptation...bill hicks... |
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31st October 2003, 01:47 | #132 | |
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I hate this kind of thinking... makes your brain want to walk out and leave... |
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31st October 2003, 02:00 | #133 |
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Your brain seems to walk out and leave everytime you post.
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31st October 2003, 02:25 | #135 |
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Look at the first post you made on my thread, what were you expecting, flowers?.
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when you press your track-back button on your discman, it returns to the beginning of the current track and plays it instantly right? think of time like that. maybe somewhere in the future we will reach a point where the cosmos will be in just the right state to press its rewind button, and play the track again. |
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31st October 2003, 10:37 | #139 | |
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The universe was created so we could all gather round on the weekend in a ramshackle scout hall or prefab building with stained and worn carpet listening to long-haired youths with too-large smiles sing away while we jump up and down in the aisles shouting "hallelujah" and "praise the lordddahh" in a self-induced state of ecstacy (endorphins for you every-day sinners) getting more and more wound up by the overawing sense of expectation and a desperate need for *something* to happen and then jibber-jabbering away in a language that conveniently is different for every person that speaks it. Sorry. Forgot for a second. Last edited by Cinclant : 31st October 2003 at 10:40. |
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31st October 2003, 10:55 | #140 |
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Let us pray the truth will be revealed to us.
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31st October 2003, 12:45 | #142 | |
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I mean, people love their hate-religion band wagon ( although it's usually only one religion in particular ), but when it comes down to it, the whole "How can God be uncreated" is as inconceivable as how eternity started. I mean, if time started as we know it or in a way beyond us, "when" did time start and what caused that to start? And what caused that to start? There is no desperate need for something to happen. Are you blind? Look around you. It's happening everywhere! What body produced chemical is it that gives a person something far better then esctasy, Cinclant, that thing being peace? |
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31st October 2003, 13:03 | #143 | |
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time started at the instant of the big bang... quite a simple answer to that question... there is no other "time" way beyond us, it's a physical dimension just like length, height and width... though, saying that, if our universe is just a 4 dimensional 'brane' floating in a higher dimensional super-universe then there could be a time external to our time... but i am unsure of that... (hm interesting though experiment, is our time the same as super-time or is super-time on top of ours and independent of it?) what caused it to start is the more interesting question because nobody knows, that's cosmology, that is (-: |
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31st October 2003, 13:12 | #144 | |
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A pity the prerequisite for most penecostlols is either a fucked mind or a brainwashed mind. |
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31st October 2003, 13:38 | #145 | |
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its interesting to think what would be if anti-time had dominated over time. we might call them the opposite, so that current time is anti-time, and current anti-time is time. and what would the universe have done: time travel in the reverse direction, so that it lived forever as a singularity? speculation |
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31st October 2003, 13:48 | #146 | |
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or, it could've big banged in the opposite direction (think of time as the x axis and volume as the y axis) and had a regular matter universe with anti-time. you said yourself there's no time before the BB so what difference is forever to a singularity with no time... maybe there could have been false starts when the universe began but at the uncoupling of the supersymmetry backwards time ruled and it went back to a singularity... either way it has no relevence on our universe IMO |
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31st October 2003, 15:21 | #147 |
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Man, every time I open this thread, all I hear is "WAHP WAHP WAHP."
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31st October 2003, 15:24 | #148 |
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This thread needs more anti-"WAHP WAHP WAHP." obviously.
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31st October 2003, 15:24 | #149 |
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That's God beating you around the ears with the clue stick
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31st October 2003, 19:24 | #151 |
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Nah, like the kind of "wahp" noise that you make while simultaneously opening and closing your hand like a mouth, in mockery of the person(s) speaking.
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You dont have to hate religion to point out how horribly flawed it is. |
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This doesn't seem to be in line with causality. Talking about "super-time" being on top of time... what's on top of super-time and what's on top of that? My point is, the way a lot of people ( who bother thinking about it ) think the universe came into being is just as non-understandable as something that is uncreated. |
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There wouldn't be just a big void before the start of time as there wouldn't have been time for there to be a big void. So don't think there is required to be a deity to fill the void and start the universe as there would not have been time for the deity to start the universe until had already been started. |
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