Pic of the day 2.0 - Page 156

Whiplash · 26th May 2009, 14:15

Yeah I don't get it either, but it should be talked about in a thread that isn't called "Pic of the day 2.0" ;p

Ab · 26th May 2009, 14:18

You have answered your own question - Maoris have the Treaty of Waitangi. It's the debate-ender.

Asian person: all races should be treated equally!
Indian person: all races should be treated equally!
African person: all races should be treated equally!
Maori person: got Treaty? no? then STFU.

adonis · 26th May 2009, 14:33

yeah yeah yeah, pic o' the day thread etc, but I couldn't resist.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom

True? Who arbitrarily decides truth in this matter? Is it stipulated in the Treaty? If not, i don't get it - arbitrarily determining representation based on race sounds like racism to me. Am i missing something? Not being a smartass - i genuinely don't get it.

Enlighten me

Maori seats are not based on race, they’re based on the treaty of Waitangi. The crown - the government, made a specific agreement with a specific group of people, and I for one think that a government is obligated to uphold any agreement that it makes. When the crown broke that agreement by confiscating maori land, communities were broken up, many were forced to move to city’s like Auckland. Since our electoral systems are based on community representation, the addition of maori seats offers to these individuals the same representation they would have had if that agreement had not been broken by the crown.

I think it would be unrealistic for maori to think that the treaty can be upheld completely, but do think that it is imperitive that an acceptable compromise is found that all sides can agree on, otherwise we risk undermining the legitimacy of our laws and governance.

Referring to maori seats as “race based” is racist. I say this because they are not based on race, they are based on and justified by the treaty of Waitangi. I for one have no problem with them as long as :

A: The number of seats is proportional to the number of maori voting in that “electorate”.

B: We retain community based represention.

Personally I think the move to purely proportional representional systems would be better than our current mishmash, and would remove the both justification and need for maori seats. Maori would be equally represented under such a system.

A Corpse · 26th May 2009, 15:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ab

You have answered your own question - Maoris have the Treaty of Waitangi. It's the debate-ender.

Asian person: all races should be treated equally!
Indian person: all races should be treated equally!
African person: all races should be treated equally!
Maori person: got Treaty? no? then STFU.

What stops Maori candidates running for these seats based on merit? This strikes me as a very "special olympics" kind of deal...

Juju · 26th May 2009, 15:20

http://imgur.com/jxe8a.jpg

edit: Link due to table break (everyone should be on 24" damn it).

dead goon · 26th May 2009, 15:22

Bloody marrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeessssss. Stealin our jobs.

BaM · 26th May 2009, 15:45

Hotlinking goodness:

adonis · 26th May 2009, 15:51

^ that.. is truely awesome.

?>Superman · 26th May 2009, 16:06

Primo shot BaM

Pastor Thug · 26th May 2009, 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Corpse

What stops Maori candidates running for these seats based on merit? This strikes me as a very "special olympics" kind of deal...

That is the absurd nature of this arangement. I can't see it sticking forever though.

JP · 26th May 2009, 16:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonis

yeah yeah yeah, pic o' the day thread etc, but I couldn't resist.

Maori seats are not based on race, they’re based on the treaty of Waitangi. The crown - the government, made a specific agreement with a specific group of people, and I for one think that a government is obligated to uphold any agreement that it makes. When the crown broke that agreement by confiscating maori land, communities were broken up, many were forced to move to city’s like Auckland. Since our electoral systems are based on community representation, the addition of maori seats offers to these individuals the same representation they would have had if that agreement had not been broken by the crown.

I think it would be unrealistic for maori to think that the treaty can be upheld completely, but do think that it is imperitive that an acceptable compromise is found that all sides can agree on, otherwise we risk undermining the legitimacy of our laws and governance.

Referring to maori seats as “race based” is racist. I say this because they are not based on race, they are based on and justified by the treaty of Waitangi. I for one have no problem with them as long as :

A: The number of seats is proportional to the number of maori voting in that “electorate”.

B: We retain community based represention.

Personally I think the move to purely proportional representional systems would be better than our current mishmash, and would remove the both justification and need for maori seats. Maori would be equally represented under such a system.

Reason and compromise are not welcome here. Leave now. The government only needs to hold true to its promises when it involves paying large sums of money to private enterprises, not citizens.

This is why people scream and shout about Maori getting representation they were promised, but don't seem to mind getting reamed by companies who control our natural resources.

dylan · 26th May 2009, 16:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonis

^ that.. is truely awesome.

It certainly is, but something tells me it's not BaM's pic, unless he's spontaneously migrated to mainland Europe

dead goon · 26th May 2009, 16:41

Was just thinking the same thing.

blueballs · 26th May 2009, 17:00

The bird in that pic is clearly unladen, but I wonder what airspeed velocity it would have to have to be able to avoid hitting the camera, and what this means for its ethnicity. I get the feeling it may have travelled a long way to be found in Europe.

dead goon · 26th May 2009, 17:06

deep

he's probably behind glass. if the flash didn't fire, it should be fine.

Ab · 26th May 2009, 17:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueballs

The bird in that pic is clearly unladen, but I wonder what airspeed velocity it would have to have to be able to avoid hitting the camera, and what this means for its ethnicity. I get the feeling it may have travelled a long way to be found in Europe.

very very nice

dead goon · 26th May 2009, 17:09

looking closer...

http://www.sztg.hu/webcam/cinke.jpg

We know the photo was probably taken in Hungary. And it is under the folder 'webcam' which would explain the lack of flash.

If it was done on a webcam that would have to be a very very lucky photo to have captured.

StN · 26th May 2009, 17:11

Looks like some kind of avian Hurricanes fan.

chiQ · 26th May 2009, 17:15

Which explains the disappointment on it's pointy little face.

dylan · 26th May 2009, 17:24

Oh, here we go.

Quote:

A webcam at Szentgotthárd, Hungary managed to snap this happy little chappy looking right into the camera. The webcam only shoots one frame in every minute so it's a bit of a happy co-incidence. Its of a quality even the BBC would be proud of; all you need is a simple webcam! Get me 300 more of these cameras and I'll make Planet Earth 2!

http://current.com/items/88802281_ni...-on-webcam.htm

Cyberbob · 26th May 2009, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Corpse

What stops Maori candidates running for these seats based on merit? This strikes me as a very "special olympics" kind of deal...

It's more like the college "must have at least four girls on your mixed rugby team" kinda deal :]

Hurtuso · 26th May 2009, 17:34

hehe gr8 tit pic

chubby · 26th May 2009, 17:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP

Reason and compromise are not welcome here. Leave now. The government only needs to hold true to its promises when it involves paying large sums of money to private enterprises, not citizens.

This is why people scream and shout about Maori getting representation they were promised, but don't seem to mind getting reamed by companies who control our natural resources.

and adonis.
QF motherfucking T.
thanks chaps- shame none of the dummies have anything.

moocow · 26th May 2009, 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiQ

Which explains the disappointment on it's pointy little face.

disapointed because it's just realized it's about to hit a camera at 25mph

stupid primative animal, let's eat it !

Ab · 26th May 2009, 18:16

sprinkle birdseed around webcam.

Lightspeed · 26th May 2009, 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by adonis

yeah yeah yeah, pic o' the day thread etc, but I couldn't resist.

Maori seats are not based on race, they’re based on the treaty of Waitangi. The crown - the government, made a specific agreement with a specific group of people, and I for one think that a government is obligated to uphold any agreement that it makes. When the crown broke that agreement by confiscating maori land, communities were broken up, many were forced to move to city’s like Auckland. Since our electoral systems are based on community representation, the addition of maori seats offers to these individuals the same representation they would have had if that agreement had not been broken by the crown.

I think it would be unrealistic for maori to think that the treaty can be upheld completely, but do think that it is imperitive that an acceptable compromise is found that all sides can agree on, otherwise we risk undermining the legitimacy of our laws and governance.

QFT.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pastor Thug

It would have been interesting to find out how many protesters have actually taken any interest in local council representation or even voted before this hikoi.

You mean it would have been interesting to see how many Maori had tried the Pakeha way before trying the Maori way?

Ab · 26th May 2009, 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

QFT.

You mean it would have been interesting to see how many Maori had tried the Pakeha way before trying the Maori way?

Holy shit, is whitey gonna start getting eaten?

chubby · 26th May 2009, 18:55

^^ only after they've been raped, drowned, and converted.

chiQ · 26th May 2009, 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by moocow

disapointed because it's just realized it's about to hit a camera at 25mph

stupid primative animal, let's eat it !

Objects may appear larger than they are in the intard-tubes. Not a lot of eating on those things, but okay.

Pastor Thug · 26th May 2009, 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

QFT.

You mean it would have been interesting to see how many Maori had tried the Pakeha way before trying the Maori way?

Huh?

a-tech · 26th May 2009, 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordP

Rince · 26th May 2009, 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueballs

The bird in that pic is clearly unladen, but I wonder what airspeed velocity it would have to have to be able to avoid hitting the camera, and what this means for its ethnicity. I get the feeling it may have travelled a long way to be found in Europe.

ZengE · 26th May 2009, 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juju

http://imgur.com/jxe8a.jpg

edit: Link due to table break (everyone should be on 24" damn it).

haha - bet he's (or she's) driving that home for a kid

Coolest present delivery method ever!

EvilLumpy · 26th May 2009, 22:48

It's remarkable how such a small and broad agreement like the treaty of waitangi is applied to EVERYTHING

Next time I'm at KFC I'll get told to move tables coz of the treaty. FFS.

It's all about the spirit of the treaty anyway, not who gets what seats and who gets to abuse who's power... sheesh.

Anyway, lol at swiss-ball fail.

Lightspeed · 26th May 2009, 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilLumpy

It's remarkable how such a small and broad agreement like the treaty of waitangi is applied to EVERYTHING

It's not applied to everything. Only everything in NZ.

Trigger · 26th May 2009, 23:16

By the power of the treaty I will rape your daughter for that comment

CCS · 26th May 2009, 23:36

iiNEMESISii · 27th May 2009, 00:13

So CSS how did you get .........?? kissing
lol nah just j/ks man!
its just a funny thing to be looking up dude ??

CCS · 27th May 2009, 00:16

Uhh... do you understand how auto-complete works?

Cyberbob · 27th May 2009, 00:17

A discovery!!

26th May 2009, 17:15	#6219
chiQ Frag-muff	Which explains the disappointment on it's pointy little face. __________________ Gaming/phone/computing platforms are not indicative of groinal/physical/cognitive impressiveness.

26th May 2009, 23:16	#6236
Trigger Laserman	By the power of the treaty I will rape your daughter for that comment __________________ Are you slow? The alleged lie that you might have heard, me saying, allagedly moments ago... That's a parasite that lives in my neck.

26th May 2009, 23:36	#6237
CCS Stunt Pants	__________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

27th May 2009, 00:16	#6239
CCS Stunt Pants	Uhh... do you understand how auto-complete works? __________________ I just want to understand this, sir. Every time a rug is micturated upon in this fair city, I have to compensate the owner?

26th May 2009, 14:15	#6201
Whiplash Bobo Fettish	Yeah I don't get it either, but it should be talked about in a thread that isn't called "Pic of the day 2.0" ;p

26th May 2009, 14:18	#6202
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	You have answered your own question - Maoris have the Treaty of Waitangi. It's the debate-ender. Asian person: all races should be treated equally! Indian person: all races should be treated equally! African person: all races should be treated equally! Maori person: got Treaty? no? then STFU.

26th May 2009, 15:20	#6205
Juju get to da choppa	http://imgur.com/jxe8a.jpg edit: Link due to table break (everyone should be on 24" damn it).

26th May 2009, 15:22	#6206
dead goon	Bloody marrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeessssss. Stealin our jobs.

26th May 2009, 15:45	#6207
BaM Freeloader	Hotlinking goodness:

26th May 2009, 15:51	#6208
adonis	^ that.. is truely awesome.

26th May 2009, 16:41	#6213
dead goon	Was just thinking the same thing.

26th May 2009, 17:00	#6214
blueballs	The bird in that pic is clearly unladen, but I wonder what airspeed velocity it would have to have to be able to avoid hitting the camera, and what this means for its ethnicity. I get the feeling it may have travelled a long way to be found in Europe.

26th May 2009, 17:06	#6215
dead goon	deep he's probably behind glass. if the flash didn't fire, it should be fine.

26th May 2009, 17:09	#6217
dead goon	looking closer... http://www.sztg.hu/webcam/cinke.jpg We know the photo was probably taken in Hungary. And it is under the folder 'webcam' which would explain the lack of flash. If it was done on a webcam that would have to be a very very lucky photo to have captured.

26th May 2009, 17:11	#6218
StN I have detailed files	Looks like some kind of avian Hurricanes fan.

26th May 2009, 17:34	#6222
Hurtuso	hehe gr8 tit pic __________________ yadda

26th May 2009, 18:16	#6225
Ab A mariachi ogre snorkel	sprinkle birdseed around webcam.

26th May 2009, 18:55	#6228
chubby	^^ only after they've been raped, drowned, and converted. __________________ "Take four red capsules, in ten minutes-take two more. Help is on the way."

26th May 2009, 22:48	#6234
EvilLumpy	It's remarkable how such a small and broad agreement like the treaty of waitangi is applied to EVERYTHING Next time I'm at KFC I'll get told to move tables coz of the treaty. FFS. It's all about the spirit of the treaty anyway, not who gets what seats and who gets to abuse who's power... sheesh. Anyway, lol at swiss-ball fail.

27th May 2009, 00:13	#6238
iiNEMESISii	So CSS how did you get .........?? kissing lol nah just j/ks man! its just a funny thing to be looking up dude ?? __________________ shizzle ma dizzle nizzle

27th May 2009, 00:17	#6240
Cyberbob	A discovery!! __________________ ɹǝʌo sᴉ ǝɯɐƃ ʎɥʇ