The God Delusion - Page 7

Hemebond · 18th December 2006, 19:48

Watched it last night. Very interesting. Some very good information.

Only negatives were some of the graphical/animation fillers. But it's all about the info anyway.

cEvin · 18th December 2006, 21:28

The director has stated public viewing of the film is fine, for no profit.

so....

P-Money · 31st March 2007, 17:14

Just started reading this book...

Given I've read similiar works as part of my philosophy study at uni I find the tone he has used to be pretty poor. He uses too much emotion, subjectivity. Makes you argue against that man rather than his thoughts.

At the start he asserts arguing against religion is fruitless. Maybe he should of stuck with that.

BathTub · 2nd April 2007, 08:44

Well he just won Author of the Year, so doubt he's too worried about negative reviews at this point.

Know me. · 27th April 2007, 22:25

I was testing out my youngest son by asking him the old zen koan "Whats the sound of one hand clapping" I asked him last night and tonight he still hadn't worked it out and he refused to go to sleep without me telling him. He even at one point said it was impossible and aked me if god knew. I got interupted by the wife who told me to stop tormenting him so we didn't have the "do you believe in god talk". I eventually got him calmed down and he worked out the answer. He complained bitterly that it was a hard question and I said thinking to myself that there wasn't anything that he could ask me that I didn't know "Ask me a hard question I bet I know the answer" and he asked me where the earth and people came from!

I'm halfway through the book. The beginning was really good but the middle has been hard work. I'll probably finish it over the weekend.

CCS · 27th April 2007, 22:56

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Originally Posted by Know me.

I eventually got him calmed down and he worked out the answer.

And what is the answer?

Know me. · 28th April 2007, 00:07

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Originally Posted by CCS

And what is the answer?

What is the colour of yellow?

dead goon · 28th April 2007, 00:10

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Originally Posted by Know me.

What is the colour of yellow?

Light with a wavelength of 570–580 nm is a yellow

Know me. · 28th April 2007, 00:19

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Originally Posted by dead goon

Light with a wavelength of 570–580 nm is a yellow

That is not yellow's colour that is its wavelength.

Know me. · 28th April 2007, 00:27

Koan's are just made to make you think. Going by the conversation I had afterward it worked. When I said I didn't know where the Earth and the people came from he said that the way to find out where the earth came from and the people would be to be and astronaught above the earth when it was made. I pointed out that astronaughts didn't exist when the Earth was made which dented he realised dented his plans. I offered that time travel might work.

?>Superman · 28th April 2007, 00:28

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Originally Posted by Know me.

What is the colour of yellow?

Don't be a hold out, just tell us the fuckin' answer and we'll be cool ese'

dead goon · 28th April 2007, 00:29

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Originally Posted by Know me.

That is not yellow's colour that is its wavelength.

i know, but it's about as close as you're gonna get!

dead goon · 28th April 2007, 00:31

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Originally Posted by Know me.

Koan's are just made to make you think. Going by the conversation I had afterward it worked. When I said I didn't know where the Earth and the people came from he said that the way to find out where the earth came from and the people would be to be and astronaught above the earth when it was made. I pointed out that astronaughts didn't exist when the Earth was made which dented he realised dented his plans. I offered that time travel might work.

titor will know

Know me. · 28th April 2007, 00:31

OK the colour of yellow is yellow right? It just can't be anything else.

What is the sound of one hand clapping?

Heyzoos · 28th April 2007, 00:33

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Originally Posted by Know me.

What is the colour of yellow?

Thats an easy one. Yellow is what ever the general consensus decide Yellow to be.

Or X is whatever the general consensus decide X to be.

Everything is an agreement between holders of opinion.

It's "an agreement between holders of opinion" that Bart Simpson solved the riddle of one hand clapping.

Know me. · 28th April 2007, 00:36

And if you were the only person in existance? What colour would yellow be?

?>Superman · 28th April 2007, 00:40

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Originally Posted by Know me.

And if you were the only person in existance? What colour would yellow be?

THIS COLOUR

Know me. · 28th April 2007, 00:41

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Originally Posted by ?>Superman

THIS COLOUR

And what colour is that?

PsyK · 28th April 2007, 01:10

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Originally Posted by Know me.

What is the sound of one hand clapping?

It's like the sound of a teeny tiny helicopter rotor warming up, the light brush of wind repetitively on the ear drum (which is a sound). However unless you're up close you prolly wont hear it.

dead goon · 28th April 2007, 01:12

what is the colour of your face!

Heyzoos · 28th April 2007, 02:53

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Originally Posted by Know me.

And if you were the only person in existance? What colour would yellow be?

Well the answer is obvious really. I shouldn't have to point it out.

CCS · 28th April 2007, 03:20

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Originally Posted by Know me.

What is the colour of yellow?

Is that that answer your kid gave you?

Ginahd · 28th April 2007, 03:45

I hope that in the near future the existence of the Christian god will no longer be worth discussion, or debate. Its not obvious that Jesus-the-supernatural-being doesn't exist, its fucking impossible (ie its as much of a fact that he doesn't as it is that I'm writing this post), but its a rather good way to illustrate the transitional phase our species is in right now. On the one side you have beings who still don't have a fucking clue, on the other side you have beings who may have a chance.

dead goon · 28th April 2007, 04:55

im sorry, but that has nothing to do with the colour yellow.

ala* · 28th April 2007, 09:02

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Originally Posted by Ginahd

On the one side you have beings who still don't have a fucking clue, on the other side you have beings who may have a chance.

the question is... which is which?

cEvin · 28th April 2007, 10:36

guys I've just recorded a single hand clap (my own hand) and I'm pleased to tell you the results: peak around 50Hz upon impact and a sweeping aftertouch going all the way up to 20kHz.

cEvin · 28th April 2007, 11:10

on a lighter note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUIb-...elated&search=

Know me. · 28th April 2007, 11:15

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Originally Posted by Ginahd

I hope that in the near future the existence of the Christian god will no longer be worth discussion, or debate. Its not obvious that Jesus-the-supernatural-being doesn't exist, its fucking impossible (ie its as much of a fact that he doesn't as it is that I'm writing this post), but its a rather good way to illustrate the transitional phase our species is in right now. On the one side you have beings who still don't have a fucking clue, on the other side you have beings who may have a chance.

I can only hope that this is not the case. As soon as people just accept what they are told without discovering for themselves there may as well be a Christian god deciding our fate. God is not impossible just improbable. There is good evidence to suggest that JC did exist but it is again improbable that he had any special powers other than love.

Know me. · 28th April 2007, 11:26

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Originally Posted by CCS

Is that that answer your kid gave you?

He got to the point that the colour of yellow is yellow and the sound of daddy is daddy and then I asked him what the sound of one hand clapping is and he didn't know. It took a few more attempts to get it from there.

I never got it when it was told to me BTW.

Draco T Bastard · 28th April 2007, 11:32

Nobody ever told me what the sound of one hand clapping was

But I always figured it was a good song

?>Superman · 28th April 2007, 11:35

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Originally Posted by cEvin

on a lighter note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUIb-...elated&search=

double the LOL

Lightspeed · 28th April 2007, 14:34

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Originally Posted by Heyzoos

Well the answer is obvious really. I shouldn't have to point it out.

In this context obvious == assumption.

Simon · 28th April 2007, 14:59

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Originally Posted by Know me.

There is good evidence to suggest that JC did exist

*sigh*

No. There isn't.

cEvin · 28th April 2007, 15:22

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Originally Posted by Simon

*sigh*

No. There isn't.

Know me. · 28th April 2007, 15:33

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Originally Posted by Simon

*sigh*

No. There isn't.

I can't supply any I was just going on what I had read in The God Delusion

Know me. · 28th April 2007, 15:37

The point was its debatable. Is there at least some evidence that can't be disproven outside the bible?

fixed_truth · 28th April 2007, 15:49

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Originally Posted by Simon

*sigh*

No. There isn't.

*Sigh* *yawn*
Its the scholarly consensus that a man existed called Jesus who was a Jewish teacher & who attracted a small following of Galileans and, after a period of ministry, was crucified by the Romans in (Palestine) during the governorship of Pontius Pilate.

What scholars/historians contest is the character of Jesus as portrayed in the Gospels - not whether or not a man called Jesus actually lived at that time.

CCS · 28th April 2007, 15:58

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Originally Posted by Know me.

He got to the point that the colour of yellow is yellow and the sound of daddy is daddy and then I asked him what the sound of one hand clapping is and he didn't know. It took a few more attempts to get it from there.

I never got it when it was told to me BTW.

So you're saying the souns of one hand clapping is the sound of one hand clapping?

I'm not actively trying to figure out the answer, eh. I'm just waiting for you to provide it to me.

Know me. · 28th April 2007, 16:13

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Originally Posted by CCS

So you're saying the souns of one hand clapping is the sound of one hand clapping?

I'm not actively trying to figure out the answer, eh. I'm just waiting for you to provide it to me.

I can't tell you what the answer is any more than I can tell you that god exists or not or tell you anything. The only way is to experience it.

CCS · 28th April 2007, 16:24

Oh I'm sorry, I thought you said your son had worked out the answer. My bad.

18th December 2006, 19:48	#241
Hemebond	Watched it last night. Very interesting. Some very good information. Only negatives were some of the graphical/animation fillers. But it's all about the info anyway.

18th December 2006, 21:28	#242
cEvin Love In Vein	The director has stated public viewing of the film is fine, for no profit. so....

31st March 2007, 17:14	#243
P-Money	Just started reading this book... Given I've read similiar works as part of my philosophy study at uni I find the tone he has used to be pretty poor. He uses too much emotion, subjectivity. Makes you argue against that man rather than his thoughts. At the start he asserts arguing against religion is fruitless. Maybe he should of stuck with that.

2nd April 2007, 08:44	#244
BathTub	Well he just won Author of the Year, so doubt he's too worried about negative reviews at this point. __________________ Kevin: You know, when we actually do unleash the dragons... Mike: When we do, right. Kevin: Oh yeah, when we do, I would hope that we're smart enough to attempt a doctrine of appeasement with them, you know we offer them, I don't know, New Zealand in exchange for them not burning down my house,.. Ah, I mean our houses. Mike: Good Kevin, that's real brave. Mike Nelson & Kevin Murphy - Reign of Fire Rifftrax

27th April 2007, 22:25	#245
Know me.	I was testing out my youngest son by asking him the old zen koan "Whats the sound of one hand clapping" I asked him last night and tonight he still hadn't worked it out and he refused to go to sleep without me telling him. He even at one point said it was impossible and aked me if god knew. I got interupted by the wife who told me to stop tormenting him so we didn't have the "do you believe in god talk". I eventually got him calmed down and he worked out the answer. He complained bitterly that it was a hard question and I said thinking to myself that there wasn't anything that he could ask me that I didn't know "Ask me a hard question I bet I know the answer" and he asked me where the earth and people came from! I'm halfway through the book. The beginning was really good but the middle has been hard work. I'll probably finish it over the weekend.

28th April 2007, 00:27	#250
Know me.	Koan's are just made to make you think. Going by the conversation I had afterward it worked. When I said I didn't know where the Earth and the people came from he said that the way to find out where the earth came from and the people would be to be and astronaught above the earth when it was made. I pointed out that astronaughts didn't exist when the Earth was made which dented he realised dented his plans. I offered that time travel might work.

28th April 2007, 00:31	#254
Know me.	OK the colour of yellow is yellow right? It just can't be anything else. What is the sound of one hand clapping?

28th April 2007, 00:36	#256
Know me.	And if you were the only person in existance? What colour would yellow be?

28th April 2007, 01:12	#260
dead goon	what is the colour of your face!

28th April 2007, 03:45	#263
Ginahd	I hope that in the near future the existence of the Christian god will no longer be worth discussion, or debate. Its not obvious that Jesus-the-supernatural-being doesn't exist, its fucking impossible (ie its as much of a fact that he doesn't as it is that I'm writing this post), but its a rather good way to illustrate the transitional phase our species is in right now. On the one side you have beings who still don't have a fucking clue, on the other side you have beings who may have a chance.

28th April 2007, 04:55	#264
dead goon	im sorry, but that has nothing to do with the colour yellow.

28th April 2007, 10:36	#266
cEvin Love In Vein	guys I've just recorded a single hand clap (my own hand) and I'm pleased to tell you the results: peak around 50Hz upon impact and a sweeping aftertouch going all the way up to 20kHz.

28th April 2007, 11:10	#267
cEvin Love In Vein	on a lighter note: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUIb-...elated&search=

28th April 2007, 11:32	#270
Draco T Bastard	Nobody ever told me what the sound of one hand clapping was But I always figured it was a good song __________________ Cheers Draco T Bastard

28th April 2007, 15:37	#276
Know me.	The point was its debatable. Is there at least some evidence that can't be disproven outside the bible?

28th April 2007, 16:24	#280
CCS Stunt Pants	Oh I'm sorry, I thought you said your son had worked out the answer. My bad.