No relly... who are you going to vote for? - Page 2

Matt0r · 13th August 2005, 13:54

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Originally posted by StN
White male hetrosexual represent!

Certainly the minority where I live/work.

ACT.

Golden Teapot · 13th August 2005, 13:58

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Originally posted by Lat1n0
Who ever can deliver cheap petrol prices and less actallu a LOT less tax in wages! Cause I am sick of spending all my hard earn money in petrol and in the IRD!

You HAVE to pay tax, and plenty of it, if you want to live in a community similar to NZ.

The question is whether small segments should pay far more, with nothing much gained by anyone, simply for the political gain of some party.

Helious · 13th August 2005, 14:00

I'll be voting Labour.

Fuck National.

Akane · 13th August 2005, 14:02

I don't know much about politics, but the way I see it is that Labour is trying to make everybody in to an average income thing by "taking from the rich and giving it to the poor".

You can see this in petrol tax, income tax, this tax, that tax.
Since when you seen a real communist country taking off? Even China is getting less commy as days goes by.

National on the other hand gets my vote, less taxing, so the "fulla G bro au" down the road in South Auckland don't just sit on their ass and getting money that you and I work very hard for, so he can buy his point of methamphetamine hydrocholride.

Other parties don't really matter. The Greens are a joke, they should just quit their MP jobs or whatever they are doing and go live in the Amazon. They seem to be more interested in converting everyone to be hippies than actually running a country.

The govt right now is too rich. Don't talk about free health care coz it isn't. Primary and secondary schools are not free. Roads are paid from our huge petrol tax ($1.52/litre anyone?), Rego ($230? x about 2 million cars each year?), and our roads are still SHIT. Radio stations survive on advertising, TV ain't free, the NZ police is really good..... at catching people speeding. so Fidget, get a clue.

Golden Teapot · 13th August 2005, 14:10

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Originally posted by DrTiTus
[BIf 5% of the population wants greens, then they should have 5% of the say...[/b]

I agree. However, there a mighty big problem with your reasoning - MPs use first-past-the-post voting within parliment. Thus, a minor party often ends up with much more influence than is fair.

Saladin · 13th August 2005, 14:59

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Originally posted by Akane
You can see this in petrol tax, income tax, this tax, that tax.
Since when you seen a real communist country taking off? Even China is getting less commy as days goes by

There's a differenece between socialism and communism - people just like to tag "lefties" as the latter as a way of dismissing their beliefs. And socialist countries are doing just fine, take a look at Denmark sometime.

Mabd · 13th August 2005, 15:23

Labour/Labour.

GT:

re: Madmax

p.s. Bonobo monkeys fuck everybody. Male, female, brother, sister, mum... dirty bastards.

Hey mum... *unf unf unf*

Evoke · 13th August 2005, 15:44

Act.

And hannibal - I fit into all the categories you listed of someone who'd vote Labour (minus the single parent thing).

Ashley · 13th August 2005, 15:51

I think I might do a bit more reading an make an informed decision.

I'll be voting Simon Power for the electorate though.

Rince · 13th August 2005, 16:21

Peter Dunne for the candidate vote....

Prob Nats for party

cEvin · 13th August 2005, 16:43

greens

Jonas Undrawing · 13th August 2005, 17:23

you're scaring me Rince.

MoP · 13th August 2005, 17:33

Labour/Labour (Tim Barnet is my MP, and a bloody good one imo)

I make a pretty fair amount of money too, but a bit more cash in my hand is not worth what we as a country would end up paying for it

Sgt Seb · 13th August 2005, 17:36

Labour/Labour.

akane - do you think you could fit anymore generalisations in your post mate? your perception of nz is riddled with stereotypes and hence completely inaccurate!!

Jonas Undrawing · 13th August 2005, 17:48

I'm surprised you even read Akane's post.

Akane · 13th August 2005, 18:16

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Originally posted by Sgt Seb
Labour/Labour.

akane - do you think you could fit anymore generalisations in your post mate? your perception of nz is riddled with stereotypes and hence completely inaccurate!!

It's alright, everybody is entitled to their own opinion. If you chose to stay in that cave of yours then so be it.

DrTiTus · 13th August 2005, 18:29

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Originally posted by Akane
less taxing, so the "fulla G bro au" down the road in South Auckland don't just sit on their ass and getting money that you and I work very hard for, so he can buy his point of methamphetamine hydrocholride.

Dude, the dole doesn't give you anywhere near enough to be able to afford a point as often as is needed. If the dole was enough to live a "high rolling" lifestyle, _I_ would be on it.

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Originally posted by Akane
The Greens are a joke, they should just quit their MP jobs or whatever they are doing and go live in the Amazon. They seem to be more interested in converting everyone to be hippies than actually running a country.

Whats wrong with hippies anyway? I'd quite like to be a hippy.

FTW FTW

Jonas Undrawing · 13th August 2005, 18:34

Facts weigh down your "no grip" imagination eh Akane? I suppose it's hard to do your mean drifting when you're worrying about trying to remember figures and constantly having to justify your way of thinking to nay-sayers. Just show them the way by burning some rubber in their faces next time Labour's own Police force tries to capture and talk some sense into you eh? National has a much better police force waiting... in a cupboard somewhere...under some old leaky stairs. Hell, National will be drifting with you, they're so cool and lax like that.

Akane · 13th August 2005, 21:31

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Originally posted by Jonas Undrawing
Shit, Akane actually has a point, hmmm, let's talk about his car, but shit, I don't know much about cars eh, hmmm, I think he went sideways a while back and regained control of his car, hmm, fuck it anyway, yeah, let's pull shit out of my ass and talk about him and NO GRIP. blah blah blah blah blah.

I sincerely wish your whole family gets bum raped by some big black nigga with a 10" big black anaconda while you suck on a red lollipop, and the police are too busy to come assist your situation because they're busy catching us boyracers, afterall, that's what you've just brought up.

Anyways, DrTiTus, you do have a point there about the dole not be able to buy much P.

But everytime when I think about where my tax money has really gone, it disturbs me.

Jonas Undrawing · 13th August 2005, 21:50

so you in no way want to justify or defend your racist, unresearched opinions. That's your choice. You may think being racist is ok where you come from. But frankly it gets on my tits when you start categorizing people below yourself based on their skin colour.

I think I'll change my vote to Winston if it grants him the power to boot out a bunch of immigrants and families so long as the group includes you, Akane. The deportation of you would be cause enough for an immigration office celebration that allowed 70 highly trained Deli Doctors, Dentists, and Superette owners into New Zealand.

Akane · 13th August 2005, 23:39

Waffle Mayo. Winston can suck on my 3" yellow penis while you can play with your fake titties for all I care.

Anyways, you're wasting my time.

leadinjector · 13th August 2005, 23:57

no, i believe YOU are the waste of time! aha!

anyway, labour. for no other reason apart from their student loan policy.

BathTub · 14th August 2005, 02:56

well originally Labour/Labour but I think probably Labour/Greens now.

I am in favour of MMP, as was mentioned earlier in the thread I think we have a slightly more representative government than the US does.

MadMax · 14th August 2005, 05:54

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Originally posted by Mabd
GT: re: Madmax

to be honest i don't really care either way.

MadMax · 14th August 2005, 05:58

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Originally posted by Akane
Other parties don't really matter. The Greens are a joke, they should just quit their MP jobs or whatever they are doing and go live in the Amazon. They seem to be more interested in converting everyone to be hippies than actually running a country.

actually they're not. the current word of the times is "sustainability" which is what the greens are trying to achieve.

MadMax · 14th August 2005, 06:01

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Originally posted by Akane
"fulla G bro au" down the road in South Auckland

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Originally posted by Akane
I sincerely wish your whole family gets bum raped by some big black nigga with a 10" big black anaconda

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Originally posted by Akane
the police are [snip] catching us boyracers

go home. Jonas:

MadMax · 14th August 2005, 06:07

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Originally posted by Akane
on my 3" yellow penis

bwahaha

asian have penis, so small. how can asian compete with penis... so small!

ilk · 14th August 2005, 11:59

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Originally posted by MadMax
bwahaha

asian have penis, so small. how can asian compete with penis... so small!

"You american have very big penis!"

cEvin · 14th August 2005, 12:23

National Front FTW

sv · 14th August 2005, 12:40

And two penises in every garage! Community owned meth labs for all!

[WanG] Wandarah · 15th August 2005, 09:40

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Originally posted by Torka
The most disturbing thing I learned in this thread is that Hannibal is in his thirties.

Jodi · 15th August 2005, 11:09

My Last Vote:

National / Act

My inteded vote:

Labour / Green

Wooo! Gogo the swing voter! I care little for tax. My major swing points are:

1) Keeping NZ's nuclear policy as it currently stands
2) Unbundling the local loop. If national state that they would defintly do that, then I would swing my vote, as long as 1) stays.

Thats is. I (currently) don't care for eductaion. Students already get interest write offs, I don't understand why the system needs to change. The economy is running fine for me, so no need to change. I would like more spending on the defense force (please, can we have an air force again?) but that won't really swing my vote. Yay for leagalising prostitution. I don't care about the civil union bill, but good on them. I wan't more non-road public transport, and I don't see National doing that anytime soon.

EvilLumpy · 15th August 2005, 12:50

I laugh at how people like Akane demand more for less and would happily flick the switch on poorer peoples/coloured folks homes.

GG!

Probably Labour/Greens here.... if only the greens weren't so rabid about this supposed GE issue...

TU[NZ] · 15th August 2005, 13:21

Libertarianz or ACT

Wally Simmonds · 15th August 2005, 13:51

Labour/Labour most probably. Mainly because of the student loan writeoffs, and I don't think they've screwed things that badly over the last couple of years.

Also I quite like Helen Clark as a politician, there doesn't really seem to be anyone else of the same calibre.

I will never vote National, for the simple fact that I forsee NZ becoming another Australia, and I have no time for their foreign policy decisions.

snow* · 15th August 2005, 14:03

National.

Eraser · 15th August 2005, 14:06

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Originally posted by snow*
National.

Cyberbob · 15th August 2005, 14:20

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Originally posted by snow*
National.

fidgit · 15th August 2005, 14:25

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Originally posted by Akane
The govt right now is too rich. Don't talk about free health care coz it isn't. Primary and secondary schools are not free. Roads are paid from our huge petrol tax ($1.52/litre anyone?), Rego ($230? x about 2 million cars each year?), and our roads are still SHIT. Radio stations survive on advertising, TV ain't free, the NZ police is really good..... at catching people speeding. so Fidget, get a clue.

I was originally going to reply to your post properly, but Jonas has done a good job of that so it would be redundent.

All I will point out is that I said "National Radio", not radio in general. Honestly, did you think I was refering to all radio stations?

man it's really hard to fight the urge to point out all the other stupid things you've said, but I know it would be like banging my head against a brick wall...

TnT · 15th August 2005, 14:32

I'm really undecided, Centre right, Centre left, much of a muchness for me.

What I'm concerned about is the looming electricity crisis that we appear to be headed for, and if we aren't then the perception that we are. Politicians all seem to be offering their ideas on what we can't do, (no more coal, no nuclear, the RMA stands in the way of other options), but there are few who are offering any workable solutions. So we appear to be sticking heads in the sand and hoping 'she'll be right mate'.

13th August 2005, 15:51	#49
Ashley Fuck up Ashley	I think I might do a bit more reading an make an informed decision. I'll be voting Simon Power for the electorate though. Last edited by Ashley : 13th August 2005 at 16:03.

13th August 2005, 14:00	#43
Helious	I'll be voting Labour. Fuck National.

13th August 2005, 14:02	#44
Akane	I don't know much about politics, but the way I see it is that Labour is trying to make everybody in to an average income thing by "taking from the rich and giving it to the poor". You can see this in petrol tax, income tax, this tax, that tax. Since when you seen a real communist country taking off? Even China is getting less commy as days goes by. National on the other hand gets my vote, less taxing, so the "fulla G bro au" down the road in South Auckland don't just sit on their ass and getting money that you and I work very hard for, so he can buy his point of methamphetamine hydrocholride. Other parties don't really matter. The Greens are a joke, they should just quit their MP jobs or whatever they are doing and go live in the Amazon. They seem to be more interested in converting everyone to be hippies than actually running a country. The govt right now is too rich. Don't talk about free health care coz it isn't. Primary and secondary schools are not free. Roads are paid from our huge petrol tax ($1.52/litre anyone?), Rego ($230? x about 2 million cars each year?), and our roads are still SHIT. Radio stations survive on advertising, TV ain't free, the NZ police is really good..... at catching people speeding. so Fidget, get a clue. Last edited by Akane : 13th August 2005 at 14:07.

13th August 2005, 15:23	#47
Mabd	Labour/Labour. GT: re: Madmax p.s. Bonobo monkeys fuck everybody. Male, female, brother, sister, mum... dirty bastards. Hey mum... unf unf unf

13th August 2005, 15:44	#48
Evoke	Act. And hannibal - I fit into all the categories you listed of someone who'd vote Labour (minus the single parent thing).

13th August 2005, 16:21	#50
Rince SLUTS!!!!!!!	Peter Dunne for the candidate vote.... Prob Nats for party

13th August 2005, 17:23	#52
Jonas Undrawing	you're scaring me Rince.

13th August 2005, 17:33	#53
MoP	Labour/Labour (Tim Barnet is my MP, and a bloody good one imo) I make a pretty fair amount of money too, but a bit more cash in my hand is not worth what we as a country would end up paying for it Last edited by MoP : 13th August 2005 at 17:34.

13th August 2005, 17:36	#54
Sgt Seb Up Unt At Dem!	Labour/Labour. akane - do you think you could fit anymore generalisations in your post mate? your perception of nz is riddled with stereotypes and hence completely inaccurate!!

13th August 2005, 17:48	#55
Jonas Undrawing	I'm surprised you even read Akane's post.

13th August 2005, 18:34	#58
Jonas Undrawing	Facts weigh down your "no grip" imagination eh Akane? I suppose it's hard to do your mean drifting when you're worrying about trying to remember figures and constantly having to justify your way of thinking to nay-sayers. Just show them the way by burning some rubber in their faces next time Labour's own Police force tries to capture and talk some sense into you eh? National has a much better police force waiting... in a cupboard somewhere...under some old leaky stairs. Hell, National will be drifting with you, they're so cool and lax like that. Last edited by Jonas Undrawing : 13th August 2005 at 18:36.

13th August 2005, 16:43	#51
cEvin Love In Vein	greens

13th August 2005, 21:50	#60
Jonas Undrawing	so you in no way want to justify or defend your racist, unresearched opinions. That's your choice. You may think being racist is ok where you come from. But frankly it gets on my tits when you start categorizing people below yourself based on their skin colour. I think I'll change my vote to Winston if it grants him the power to boot out a bunch of immigrants and families so long as the group includes you, Akane. The deportation of you would be cause enough for an immigration office celebration that allowed 70 highly trained Deli Doctors, Dentists, and Superette owners into New Zealand.

13th August 2005, 23:39	#61
Akane	Waffle Mayo. Winston can suck on my 3" yellow penis while you can play with your fake titties for all I care. Anyways, you're wasting my time.

13th August 2005, 23:57	#62
leadinjector	no, i believe YOU are the waste of time! aha! anyway, labour. for no other reason apart from their student loan policy.

14th August 2005, 02:56	#63
BathTub	well originally Labour/Labour but I think probably Labour/Greens now. I am in favour of MMP, as was mentioned earlier in the thread I think we have a slightly more representative government than the US does.

14th August 2005, 12:23	#69
cEvin Love In Vein	National Front FTW

14th August 2005, 12:40	#70
sv simulationszeitalter	And two penises in every garage! Community owned meth labs for all!

15th August 2005, 11:09	#72
Jodi	My Last Vote: National / Act My inteded vote: Labour / Green Wooo! Gogo the swing voter! I care little for tax. My major swing points are: 1) Keeping NZ's nuclear policy as it currently stands 2) Unbundling the local loop. If national state that they would defintly do that, then I would swing my vote, as long as 1) stays. Thats is. I (currently) don't care for eductaion. Students already get interest write offs, I don't understand why the system needs to change. The economy is running fine for me, so no need to change. I would like more spending on the defense force (please, can we have an air force again?) but that won't really swing my vote. Yay for leagalising prostitution. I don't care about the civil union bill, but good on them. I wan't more non-road public transport, and I don't see National doing that anytime soon. __________________ "I distinctly remember leaving my God at home in my room where he won't interfere with my life." -Quan Zee Teng

15th August 2005, 12:50	#73
EvilLumpy	I laugh at how people like Akane demand more for less and would happily flick the switch on poorer peoples/coloured folks homes. GG! Probably Labour/Greens here.... if only the greens weren't so rabid about this supposed GE issue...

15th August 2005, 13:51	#75
Wally Simmonds	Labour/Labour most probably. Mainly because of the student loan writeoffs, and I don't think they've screwed things that badly over the last couple of years. Also I quite like Helen Clark as a politician, there doesn't really seem to be anyone else of the same calibre. I will never vote National, for the simple fact that I forsee NZ becoming another Australia, and I have no time for their foreign policy decisions.

15th August 2005, 14:32	#80
TnT	I'm really undecided, Centre right, Centre left, much of a muchness for me. What I'm concerned about is the looming electricity crisis that we appear to be headed for, and if we aren't then the perception that we are. Politicians all seem to be offering their ideas on what we can't do, (no more coal, no nuclear, the RMA stands in the way of other options), but there are few who are offering any workable solutions. So we appear to be sticking heads in the sand and hoping 'she'll be right mate'.