NZG Automotive Threadtacular

[Perfk]

Originally Posted by [BT]MikeMan

I would be looking at a Nissan Patrol or a Landcruiser with the 4.5L Turbo Diesel.

Also with that much weight you will want an Auto with a big after market trans cooler.

I know people who tow smaller trailers with bighorns & terranos etc get that upgrade done. Still required for the larger engines? Or more a "rather have it done than have it fuck out halfway up the [insert local shitty twisty hills of choice]"?

I think it's normally only 1-2k to get done??

[Reformed_Quint]

Originally Posted by p01s0n

you suggested a car to buy purely based on what engine it has.

I'm revoking all my car advice privileges unless someone asks 'Hey, RQ, what supra should I buy'
baaarssssst baaaaaaaarsssst

[^BITES^]

Originally Posted by Perfk

I know people who tow smaller trailers with bighorns & terranos etc get that upgrade done. Still required for the larger engines? Or more a "rather have it done than have it fuck out halfway up the [insert local shitty twisty hills of choice]"?

I think it's normally only 1-2k to get done??

On the point of more power and diesels.

Check out a bulldog system ... lpg injection for diesels ... I was hesitant at first to think it would actually do much .. but fuck, the performance with the LPG on is on par with being petrol powered.

Uses a 9kg bottle too ... looks lol.

[NT_VlaD]

Any common rail diesel will make you rethink a diesel has no power.
The late model toymotas (utes) are seriously powerfull
Not wanting to state the obvious if its for towing a horse float, what do most other people use ?
You need to deside if its an everyday car that gets used for towing once in a bluemoon or is it a tow vehicle full stop.
You dont want a big heavy pig of a thing to drive around in if you only tow one weekend a month.
My Rodeo diesel tows cars around on my tandem trailer no sweat at all...
If I have the bikes on the trailer you dont even know they are there
I doubt a horse float would weigh more than the cars.
Again, the petrol vs diesel thing is proportional to its use.
Road user charges are a bitch, but then again it costs $60 to fill the ute and it will do 600+kms to a tank / so theres no comparison against petrol.

Dunno ...
I would go latest model common rail diesel ute I could find.
But not a light one.

And FUCK auto's ....They are for Girls and people who cant drive and obviously Americans which coincedentally also fit into the "people who cant drive" part

[Warrick]

Originally Posted by NT_VlaD

And FUCK auto's ....They are for Girls

Reckon.

[Pitmonster]

Perfk, Vlad is on the money
If you want a little more info, get in touch with me, am still workin at the pit
Or can def recommend Grant down at G Guy Motors, they are more offroad oriented but can point you in right direction for heavy towing for sure

[Disinformation]

Originally Posted by NT_VlaD

Dunno ...
I would go latest model common rail diesel ute I could find.
But not a light one.

I don't think any of the Japanese utes are rated to tow 3500kg

The Hilux and Landcruiser Prado are 2500 and the 4wd Ranger/BT50 are 3000

[SumJaun]

Originally Posted by Disinformation

I don't think any of the Japanese utes are rated to tow 3500kg

The Hilux and Landcruiser Prado are 2500 and the 4wd Ranger/BT50 are 3000

Prado is borderline soccer mum territory. A real LandCruiser listed below can tow braked 3500Kg.

http://content.toyota.co.nz/toyota/n...dCruiser70.pdf

An 80 series(previous shape) 4.2litre turbo diesel should be more than capable.

[NT_VlaD]

http://www.horsetalk.co.nz/saferide/nc-towing.shtml

Actually 730is are rated at some silly high towing capacity amount ...

[Perfk]

other people with extra-large floats use the patrol or the landcruiser most commonly

of course if they only have a regular float they use terranos & bighorns & call sorts of things like that

just trying to educate myself
as we've had trucks since I was 9 years old
so I don't have a lot of towing experience or knowledge

[Disinformation]

Originally Posted by SumJaun

An 80 series(previous shape) 4.2litre turbo diesel should be more than capable.

Yeah thats what I meant. You'd need a proper Landcruiser/Patrol/similar rather than a ute/pretend 4wd

[p01s0n]

Originally Posted by NT_VlaD

And FUCK auto's ....They are for Girls

But that would make it OK for perfk to buy an auto then, right?

[CCS]

wait... you're dating a girl?

[Perfk]

Originally Posted by CCS

wait... you're dating a girl?

not anymore

[CCS]

Ah, stink buzz. Hence reason for moving from place in the country?

[Perfk]

Nah - we sold that place, then had picked a place to move to together
then 3 weeks before settlement I got dumped (on my birthday! did you miss that thread?)
Still friends and all... but yeah, means I'm needing to look at some lifestyle changes and make some decisions about my future etc etc

But I agree
stink.

[Bandalador]

...awkward...

[CCS]

Originally Posted by Perfk

then 3 weeks before settlement I got dumped (on my birthday! did you miss that thread?)

Oh yeah, I saw that but wasn't sure how to take that... I thought "What sort of cornhole would dump someone on their birthday? Nah, must be some kind of joke... or... something..."

STINK CORNHOLE.

[Perfk]

Yeah - so back to the topic of vehicles!!
I have found 2 friends in Wellington that have extra large floats (one with a patrol to tow, the other I'm not sure what she uses) - so I'm going to see if they can take me for a drive in them and get a feel for how the units sit on the road too.
There is another family around here who use a dodge ram - but I've been told not to go down that track because maintenance would kill my bank account.

[pervy]

The use of Dodge Rams has shown to cause morbid obesity, stupidity and an inclination towards sexual intercourse with ones cousins.

Just saying...

[Reformed_Quint]

See pie, this is what happens when you stop talking about teh enginez.

[Disinformation]

Originally Posted by Perfk

There is another family around here who use a dodge ram - but I've been told not to go down that track because maintenance would kill my bank account.

IIRC the Dodges have suspension issues. Mechanically it'd depend on exactly what engine/transmission you chose, I know with the big Fords one of the diesels was a complete dud (from memory the 6l, 7.3 was supposed to be good).

[Rangoon Attack]

just got a manual conversion priced up for my car, all parts including labour comes to just under $2,000
fuck yea!!
lots of people ask me, "why bother with a conversion, just sells yours and buy a manual"
well, manuals aren't that easy to come by for this particular model, body shape, factory extras etc etc and cost way more than the auto version cost me

just gotta wait until late September for when I will actually have enough leave to get my car up to Auckland and hang out for a few days

[p01s0n]

what kind of car? whenever someone says manual swap, all i can picture is like a 4 door r32 skyline, lol.

[Stalk3r]

or a cefiro with an rb20de

[p01s0n]

Originally Posted by Reformed_Quint

Get some heel toe action.

The pressure!

I went and did some testing with the camera, is this to your liking? It will most likely be a Picture-in-picture type setup down in the corner of the footage from the cabin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSdSVQyMX7U

note: not driving in this clip, just clowning.

[Reformed_Quint]

phoooooar, boy think he got skill .

My attempts normally resulting in crazy breaking. lol.

[Vrtigo]

thought id post in here rather than buy/sell... wtb 1x mr2 windscreen to replace my one which got hammered last night

[Vrtigo]

i hate people.

[Reformed_Quint]

WTF RAGE!!!! cunts man.

Parked at a party or outside your house? Cut it out yourself, doesn't matter if you break it as its fucked, and will save you 80 buck.

[Vrtigo]

outside my house. unfortunately, the garage is taken. i didnt hear a thing, got in the drivers seat this morning about to head to my friends place until i saw that.

[p01s0n]

well autocross today was good fun, new tires meant a good improvement I thought. Much more enjoyable.

Managed to get some video footage, pedal cam preliminary checks appear to show 'adequate' evidence of touge heel toe. It's gonna take me a while to edit it all together and such.

Just before the last run, the sky opened up, so I decided to film from the passenger corner of the cabin. Here's the footage from the wet-weather run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXjitm0VSLQ

It's a bit slidey, lol.

perfk also enjoyed the treats the miata had on offer at her first autocross, taking the safe and cautious approach but enjoying it none the less.

[Reformed_Quint]

1st gear savagery! Definitely some hairy looking moments.

[p01s0n]

Originally Posted by Reformed_Quint

1st gear savagery! Definitely some hairy looking moments.

its like when I shift into second my brain goes

"what? second gear? fuck no! slam that shit back into first!"

[pxpx]

looks like a shit ton of fun

[p01s0n]

yeah man, $30 for a day of watching motorsport and racing too is pretty good value after the initial investment of a race car, suit and helmet..of course.

Draft results have been posted, I came 25th out of 50 total entries, and I came 8th in class (engine not over drive) out of 21 ENOD vehicles. Pretty stoked!

Consistent timings too:

00:56.62 | 00:56.88 | 00:56.37 | 00:55.67 | 01:00.82

The last one was in the wet.

[Perfk]

I came 20th! lol
out of 21
but hey... not quite last

[SickBo@Work]

Originally Posted by SumJaun

An 80 series(previous shape) 4.2litre turbo diesel should be more than capable.

Afaik, pre 95 or 96 they were only rated to 2.5k, post up to 3.5k.

The 80 series are more rugged and offroad capable in my experience than the 100 but lacking in power. I had a 4.2TD 96 model used to tow a 2.5T boat, it was superb all round as a tow vehicle, even with raised suspension but was just lacking a bit in the power stakes when it came to hills.

After that had a nasty ending I got a 100 series, 2000 V8 cruiser which tows a 3T boat like a peice of piss. Economy isn't the greatest but it's manageable and its always nice being able to overtake trucks with ease in the passing lanes. If your anal on gas money and don't have another car more suitable as a daily driver/shopping trolly not the best option though.

The perfect towing vehicle that is stacks ahead of any others would be a 100 series 4.2l TD cruiser. More power and more comfortable than the 80 series, easy to chip as well if you want even more grunt.

What it really comes down to is cost. For a decent, medium km ie around the 200k mark your looking at around 30k for a 100 series TD, whereas for the V8 it's more around 20-22K. But the 100 series TD will hold its value far better and last longer.

[Bandalador]

Haha, looks like awesome fun p01s0n, good on you.

[Reformed_Quint]

Thought of a cool idea for a P/Plate for my celica. inside joke