Random Thoughts II

[sv]

When people do twisted shit it's a failure on their part, but also a failing of society.

The death penalty is a cop-out in that regard, placing responsibility purely on the individual.

Haydos, in the example of the kid getting raped, such violence is often cyclical. If the offender was himself raped as a child, would that enter the equation?

There are reasons for people to be the way they are.

[Haydos]

I don't care why they're broken. They're broken. They're now causation of problems for society and should be removed from society forthwith.

Take a black and white view on the world. Why do animals eat their disabled youth, while we pamper ours and attempt to give them "as equal a life as possible"

You got touched as a child? I'm sorry for you, but if you go and become a serial offender, ruining lives, you should be put down.

[BloodDonor]

even dna tests by the fbi previously in the USA, have proven to be incorrect after retesting...

[Haydos]

And again, this seems to justify the legal systems errors. "Oh, at least they didn't kill the guy" - no, they sent him away for 15 years where in all likelyhood he was tortured by the prison system and will come out with very little chance for a normal life.

PS, I've never considered DNA irrefuteable evidence.

[sv]

Originally Posted by Haydos

Take a black and white view on the world.

Why?

[ChaosWulf]

Originally Posted by Haydos

Humanity has seen the world become tremendously over populated and people like you, are likely to be the cause for the end of the world - because you'd rather see human rights over human survival.

Not exactly an attitude I'd expect from someone who claims Russian/Ashkenazi heritage. So either that was another wee fib, or you've really not learned a damn thing from the past. Kudos, either way.

[Haydos]

Name me a Jew known for their charity.

And as for Russian charity? Chelsea loves the Russians... not many others.

[Lightspeed]

Originally Posted by Haydos

I don't care why they're broken. They're broken. They're now causation of problems for society and should be removed from society forthwith.

Some would argue that a society that raises such people in the first place is what is broken.

[Haydos]

I'd agree with that. Society is broken. We're in a perpetual circular cycle of keeping people afloat that shouldn't be kept afloat, this in turn leads to issues where families and income are not valued, largely due to the fact that they're given money for no work, no labour.

[ChaosWulf]

Who said anything about charity? I was talking about your attitude towards human rights.
Even so, tzedakah is hardly an unknown concept, unless your family were very non-traditional.

[Haydos]

Tzedakah requires involvement with your religion. I'm not a religious person and haven't been since I could talk. In fact, my father who was once heavily involved became less and less so, due to my absolutely skeptical mother.

Also, you'll find that most people practice Tzadekah within their own communities, amongst their peers - not to complete strangers. Very few Jewish people believe in helping people outside the sphere of religion or community, the one trait I have above all others is the highly selfish personality.

My ancestory/ethnicity doesn't define me, simply defines the origins from which I came.

[Spoon1]

Originally Posted by Haydos

My criminal history doesn't define me, simply defines the origins from which I came.

[Rince]

best Stuff article I've read in flipping ages, man: http://www.stuff.co.nz/4719100a4560.html

[CCS]

It kills the AIDS virus too, she said.

WAT? Quick, get the AIDS patients and flush their veins out with Coca Cola!

[Baal]

She said she was serious in testing the soft drink because women were using it in a douche as a contraceptive and, later, to try to protect themselves from the AIDS virus.

what the fucuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccccck

operative word here

douche

[Haydos]

A new House episode... Give that man dialysis and a complete blood clean mixed with coca cola.

But House.

DO IT...

Ok House.

[StN]

...and a doctor who cured hiccups by applying digital rectal massage.

[Sp0nge]

Originally Posted by Haydos

I'd agree with that. Society is broken.

if society is broken
it is our job to fix it
as responsible
and intelligent adults
in a civilized world

we need to break the cycles that create criminals.

we need to care, not kill.

[StN]

Originally Posted by Sp0nge

we need to break the cycles that create criminals.

Couldn't we just knick the seats?

[Reformed_Quint]

Stop crimminals from breeding?

If children grow up fucked up because their parents were fucked up, as you say.

Stop the fucked up people from breeding, EASY!

[CCS]

Lobotomy.

[Hurtuso]

Knobotomy

[Baal]

Dichotomy.

[ChaosWulf]

Nice.

[Hurtuso]

Originally Posted by Haydos

Name me a Jew known for their charity.

Steven Spielberg

[Helious]

Total Posts: 6

[CCS]

School Holidays.

[BloodDonor]

well i just requested by email a kiwisaver info pack, from my manager... lol.. that will be interesting

[fidgit]

Originally Posted by BloodDonor

well i just requested by email a kiwisaver info pack, from my manager... lol.. that will be interesting

Why? Is your manager not supportive of KiwiSaver?

You could try pointing out the legal obligation. Then calling the department of labour. It'll be fun!

[[Malks] Pixie]

Originally Posted by fidgit

Then calling the department of labour. It'll be fun!

Calling DOL is never fun, in fact I struggle to think of anything about the process which could even be vaugley related to the idea of fun...

Pixie

[BloodDonor]

Originally Posted by fidgit

Why? Is your manager not supportive of KiwiSaver?

You could try pointing out the legal obligation. Then calling the department of labour. It'll be fun!

oh i have a feeling that the documents wont be supplied... i asked last week for the new tax declarations so i could sign them, for the PAYE tax cuts... "theyll be ready on monday" i was told

nup, they werent, nor were they when i started my shift today... so i downloaded it myself, printed it, filled it in and its sitting in my managers inbox

there will be words said if she charges me at my old rate

[dead goon]

Fly out of London tomorrow morning on my way to NZ.
Has anyone experienced any hard drive searches at any point? Dubai, NZ?

Not that my music folder is ilegal at all.


lol.

[MoP]

Truecrypt everything, in a hidden partition. Leave a normal looking install in it's place. Perhaps include a collection of My Little Pony pictures.

[StN]

Originally Posted by [Malks] Pixie

Calling DOL is never fun, in fact I struggle to think of anything about the process which could even be vaugley related to the idea of fun...

I'm pretty sure the bit where you decide to give up and stop trying to call the DOL is the fun part.

[StN]

Even thought the cost of cooking at home is comparable, sometimes you just have to duck out to the takeaway store when things get too fruity...

[[Malks] Pixie]

Originally Posted by StN

I'm pretty sure the bit where you decide to give up and stop trying to call the DOL is the fun part.

Hehehe - nicely put :-)

I just wish they'd stop calling me!

Pixie

[dead goon]

Originally Posted by MoP

Truecrypt everything, in a hidden partition. Leave a normal looking install in it's place. Perhaps include a collection of My Little Pony pictures.

Way ahead of ya

[buckies]

Originally Posted by Haydos

I don't care why they're broken. They're broken. They're now causation of problems for society and should be removed from society forthwith.

I agree with the idea of removing them from society, but I disagree with the idea that the death penalty should be the means by which you do this.

[Haydos]

Then they become as big a burden to society as they would be outside the walls of Prison, due to the cost of each prisoner being more than the average wage in New Zealand.

[Lightspeed]

Helping prevent them becoming fucked up in the first place is not an option?