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11th May 2009, 11:36 | #41 |
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try using the spoiler tags. seeing this tuesday at v-max, yus!
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We also shouldn't start on the silliness that is one star going supernova and threatening the entire galaxy yet being able to be contained by one ship dashing to one place. The astronomy makes no sense at all. Or the whole time travel thing - after all even if Romulus did get destroyed why didn't Mr Fancy Pants use the warp around the sun trick, that he knows how to do, to go back in time and arrive with enough time to save Romulus and thus avert the entire affair If he had explained that to Nero then the whole thing could have been resolved. The plot, in terms of coherency and sense, is very much the weakest part of the film.
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Don't get me wrong - I agree with you there - but I'd never in my life expect there to be scientific accuracy in a Star Trek film (that in of it self would make it stand out from all the other trek stuff). Pixie
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11th May 2009, 12:35 | #45 | |
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We have been using spoiler tags in these threads for a long time, get on board.
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Which I think it the issue I have here, plot coherence and technical sense have been firmly sacrificed for the cool. That means we have gone from stories that attempted to have high concept in them to give the viewers something to think about to now it firmly being action adventure popcorn entertainment. I think Gene Roddenberry would be upset with losing that even while he probably would have enjoyed the reimagining of the characters and a lot of the aesthetics.
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11th May 2009, 14:25 | #47 |
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The writers should slingshot around the sun and then change the past by writing a more realistic time travel plot.
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11th May 2009, 14:44 | #51 |
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At the end of the day, until FTL travel is actually possible, it's still called Science Fiction, not Science Fact.
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11th May 2009, 21:20 | #52 |
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I thought the part where Nero introduced himself over the viewscreen was quite funny. Not some megalomaniac puffing himself up, just a casual greeting
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12th May 2009, 16:29 | #58 |
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Also - I'm really loving the appearance of old Spock.. it means that whatever he says, we as the trekkie viewer understand, because we've been through what he has. He's gone through the black hole and seen the reboot of the series, and so have we.
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12th May 2009, 16:37 | #59 |
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Also, for those wondering why a mining ship can kick so much ass and why he's full of anger, the wiki on the comic book prequel tells all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/index.html?curid=21208356 The comic is set eight years after the film Star Trek Nemesis. Federation and Romulan tensions have generally subsided, with Spock the official Federation ambassador to the Romulans. Data is still alive and has become captain of the Enterprise-E after successfully imprinting his memories onto the prototype android B-4. Jean-Luc Picard is now Federation ambassador to Vulcan, Geordi La Forge has retired to develop his own ships, and Worf is a General in the Klingon Empire. The galaxy is threatened by the Hobus star, which will become a supernova. Spock proposes that the Romulans transport the precious mineral Decalithium to Vulcan, where it can be converted into red matter capable of turning the star into a black hole, therefore ending its threat. The senate opposes Spock, but he finds a comrade in Nero, the leader of the miners. Nero witnessed Hobus consume a planet first-hand and offers to secretly transport Decalithium, noting it would be better than doing nothing and then leaving his wife and unborn son to die. Nero's ship, the Narada, is attacked by the Remans, but the Enterprise rescues them and escorts them to Vulcan with Decalithium taken from the Reman ships. On Vulcan, the council opposes Romulan use of red matter, infuriating Nero; he vows if Romulus is destroyed, he shall hold them accountable. Nero returns to Romulus to discover Hobus has gone supernova and destroyed his home world. Driven mad by his loss, he attacks Federation Olympic class hospital ships that have arrived to give aid, believing they have come to claim his people's territory. He beams aboard surviving senators onto his ship and kills them for not listening to Spock, and then claims the Praetor's ancient trident, the Debrune Teral'n, which is the greatest symbol of Romulus. He and his crew then shave their heads and apply tattoos to signify their loss. Nero goes to the Vault, a secretive Romulan base, and has the Narada outfitted with Borg technology to begin a rampage against his enemies. With the supernova expanding, Spock decides to deposit the red matter weapon. He takes the Jellyfish, a ship developed by La Forge that can withstand extreme environmental conditions. The Narada goes about destroying and assimilating Federation, Klingon and Cardassian ships alike, wounding Worf and damaging the Enterprise in the process. When Spock successfully destroys the supernova, the Narada appears to attack when the black hole flings it and the Jellyfish back in time, leaving Picard and the crew of the Enterprise as witnesses to Spock's sacrifice.
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The Humour was a bit cheesy (though still pretty funny), the ending was a bit cheesy (HEY LOOK! VULCAN JUST GOT SWOLLOWED BY A WORMHOLE, BUT WE WON SO IT'S ALL GOOD). Aside from Sarek all of the main characters had definitely done their work as far as mimicking the personalities of the original cast though. Dispite all my irks (Sarek being the one that really sticks out), I still enjoyed it, 7.5 out of 10 for me.... Just in case you were all thinking my inner Trekkie had run of the place :P. Splosions, cheesy humour, pew pew pew and ass kicking. yyeahh |
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13th May 2009, 01:09 | #61 |
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I would just to like to add my contribution to this thread. I saw it tonight and it was: somewhat entertaining.
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13th May 2009, 01:12 | #62 |
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This movie had a need for speed.
No time for kirk blubbing and the comedy was welcome not keen on spending time with a whyyy meee kirk plus special friends.
Almost too slick... lacking rough edges meant nothing special was going to happen but it didnt matter. I enjoyed it, up until the final family get together made me realise I was watching a trek movie and that I have no interest in future adventures of that 60's show. |
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Quite enjoyed the movie, thought they got the majority of the actors just right for their roles. As others have said, I'm not much of a Trek fan, but thought this latest production was pretty choice. |
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14th May 2009, 00:56 | #65 |
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Great movie, even the missus loved it..even she was doing the Live long and prosper thing on the way out of the cinema.
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14th May 2009, 16:38 | #66 |
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Just saw it, highly entertaining, nothing too serious. Thought they did a great job of balancing the self-referential stuff with the need to attract people who normally hate Star Trek.
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I really liked it.
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saw it last night - very enjoyable. Nice references to the originals.
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I enjoyed it. Stayed loyal enough to Star Trek while giving it a bit of an update. However during the movie the largest and most retarded plot hole stood out to me, so correct me if I was wrong (makes more sense now that i've read that prequel bit thanks!). Basically the guy comes back to before Romulus was destroyed, but instead of saving it he goes on a relatively misguided mission of vengance which will do nothing to actually make Romulus more secure since it's destroyed by a star not the federation? I mean wtf? So he could have saved Romulus but instead gets himself killed and doesn't warn them? They're still gonna die in 125 years or whatever no matter what happens to the federation. |
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Perhaps cause I got into it too late I've never even looked at Star Trek as having any coherency, more as just prefabricated setting and characters in which to set stories. Kind of like if someone made a new set of movies set in the Lord Of The Rings universe and recycled a few characters in the process. Having this viewpoint makes it easy for me to enjoy a movie like this without inconsistencies getting getting on my nerves. Fairly solid from me! |
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18th May 2009, 21:33 | #72 |
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As a fan (though not hardcore) of TNG, I am vaguely familiar with TOS. The high point of the movie is when Spock virtually flipped the Vulcan Science Academy off when he declined to join their ranks because of his 'disadvantage' (I lol). Everything onwards is either science fantasy mumble jumble (which is really what Star Trek the franchise tried to do half of the time anyway) or cut-and-paste job from modern action movie.
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18th May 2009, 21:34 | #73 |
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I thought it was pretty average.
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i made old star trek look like new star trek!
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21st May 2009, 12:50 | #75 |
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lol i went and saw it yesterday and didn't even notice those flares or whatever they're called
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21st May 2009, 13:25 | #76 |
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I enjoyed it, fun movie. 10 bucks well spent.
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i read bob's comments on it BEFORE Seeing it but i never noticed it either - im sure i will now once i watched it again.
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It reminded me of what was done in Firefly with random lights in places shining in to the camera... just a lot more of it.
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