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Old 5th July 2007, 12:51     #365
samael
 
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Originally Posted by fixed_truth
an observer influencing reality is not outside science - nor consciousness creating reality is merely psychological -

'the universe itself is god, the creation is the creator, and we are all but a part of it. people feel a connection to our world and the universe, which i would describe as god.'

Theists 'God exists' & Atheists 'God doesn't exist' - are the same thing
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Originally Posted by fixed_truth
As you identified above - we are not even in a position to make the relevant comparative probability judgment. We have no idea whether G (God) is more probable than ~G (not God) given there is no evidence.

and by the way - the idea of 'probability' is based on the assumption that our perceptual beliefs are accurate - it is logically possible that our perceptual beliefs are false (the 'matrix' is possible) - this possibility of 'the matrix' means we can never exclude all chance of error in our perceptual beliefs - however improbable the 'matrix' seems to us or not is irrelevant as our experience in or out of the 'matrix' are exactly the same (our brain knows no difference) - in reality you can never know whether you are 30 metres tall or not - you can only make a decision within the assumed foundation (ie probability holds only within a preferred framework)
I can can tell you with much certainty that I am not 30 metres tall. You don't have any evidence either way, for or against me being 30 metres tall (apart from my admission), but the absurdity of the statement suggests that the probability is pretty low.
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